Chris , I understand that these are your own personal experiences. But are you talking /referring to Western women or did you go and had a meeting with E European and or Russian women also ? If on your very first meeting with a Slavic woman I am not sure if she is willing to spend the whole day with you at a first , 2nd or 3rd date . Neither am I inclined to believe that she is ready to go on a vacation with a complete stranger on your first visit. Well , she can take some days off from work - but that depends on her personal and /or financial situation. If you are dating with a traditional Slavic woman sleeping in the same room or appartment is probably not going to happen on the first dates or first visit. And meeting with her friends doesn't sound likely either. In general it will take more than 1 visit (and many more dates) to let her feel very , very sure about you and your intentions. And then I am not talking about your qualifications to understand and interpret her actions , non-verbal communication and her words ... This is the part where many men loose the situation and sometimes kill something that may have started (very) well , but they didn't knew how to "read" the woman ... Just my 2 cents ...